What is Bachelor of Rural Medicine and Surgery?
Medical services in rural India suffers from shortage of doctors. To address this issue, The Union Health Ministry came up with a new solution. Now they will offer a new course called Bachelor of Rural Medicine and Surgery. The course would be offer in three-and-half-year shorter than normal MBBS course and will not have any specialization. The Medical Council of India is currently working on the syllabus, and the first batch will be recruited next year.
Dr Ketan Desai, president of the Medical Council of India, Said
The students will not have to sit for a medical entrance examination, instead they will be selected from primary health centres on the basis of marks obtained in Class XII with Physics, Chemistry and Biology as subjects. Weightage will be given to those who have studied in village schools. The merit list will be drawn from these schools and not from metropolitan cities. As of now, we have decided that these students will work in primary health centres for the first year so that they have first-hand experience. The second year will be spent in a district hospital and the third year in a tertiary hospital. To begin with, 50 students will be enrolled. For five years after finishing training, these doctors will practice only in areas which have a population of less than 50,000. "For five years, they will not be eligible for post-graduate courses. After that, they will be at par with other doctors. Then they can go to the city and pursue PG studies
January 3rd, 2010 at 10:52 AM
Actual situation of rural health services in India is more pathetic or we can say there is no medical service at all in most of the rural India. Government is not honest in its approach. Setting of NRHM is a good step but implementation of this scheme is not as effective as it should be. Qualified health professional don’t want to work in the rural areas and why should they? They all are supposed to make money out of their profession as their counterparts in urban areas. They study in cities for almost 10 years and if they go to rural areas who will take care of their children’s education? It is a big question.
There is huge work force of institutionally trained and qualified AYUSH (Ayurveda, yoga,sidha and homeopathic)graduates mainly working in the rural areas. their curricula contains the theoretical as well as practical knowledge of modern medicine(Allopath). Ministry can use this vast work force from day one. for this very purpose there must be only vision -serving the poor people of rural India. One must keep aside his ego of superiority of Allopathy.Drug and cosmetics act has a provision regarding this purpose. In Uttar Prades there are almost 2000 Ayush Medical officers posted at community health centers and at PHCs for last 20 years and they are providing modern system of medicine very effectively. For utilizing such capabilities for general practitioners we must give them the legal rights under Rule 2ee(iii) of drug and cosmetics act. Further more if the MCI and MOHFW things their knowledge can be upgraded by short term courses and orientation and re-orientation program.
If we really want to serve the rural India in effective this one of the best way. Starting a new course of BRMS will take at least 5 years to in to existence.
With Thanks
surendra chaudhary
January 4th, 2010 at 10:59 AM
scope in himachal prasdesh unioversity
eligiblity and qualificaiton in hp university what are mci and mchp courses?
discription in rural sectors
January 4th, 2010 at 4:57 PM
DIPLOMA IN RURAL MEDICINE
(Rural Health Practitioner)
Points to Ponder
The goal of the government is “to provide opportunities for a healthy and productive life for all”.
WHO defines health as a state of complete well-being- Physical, mental, social and spiritual.
Why is there a need of this new system?
1. In India more than 75% of the population resides in rural areas or slum areas in the cities. In these places quackery is prevalent; many a times they are not even 10th pass.
2. After 60 years of Independence also we are unable to provide necessary medical and health facilities to the rural and poor population of the country. This is because without understanding the social environment, the need and sanskar of rural India , where 75% of India lives; we had been forcing the rules of Medical Council of India.
3. In general MBBS Doctors never wish to go to rural areas to provide their services. Its well known that whenever any State Government have forced to post/depute them in rural areas under whatever scheme; there had been strikes & they have resigned from their jobs.
4. An MBBS/MS/MD/BAMS/BHMS Doctor who has spend 6 to 10 years of their valuable life time in studies to become specialists and almost 12 to 25 lacs of rupees; is it logical to post them in the interiors where they have to work in adverse conditions without having proper facilities. Moreover we would not be able to tap their full expertise there in rural areas and it is a waste of skilled manpower.
5. It has been observed that 80% of illness is in primary levels which can be tackled by rural level health practitioners. In case of emergencies & typical cases these practitioners would refer the patient to senior Doctors in urban areas.
6. Rural people are often unable to beer the cost of medical services of Doctors and go to quacks where they feel that they would save money. Government is unable to stop quackery because it has not been able to provide viable and justified replacements to the quacks.
Thus the above-proposed Diploma Course would help to stop quackery and replace them with qualified heath practitioners.
The Specialties & Usefulness of the Diploma in Rural Medicine
1. Majority of candidates who wish to take medicine as their career and come from rural background would opt for this course; therefore they need not be forced to go to those areas to work. Moreover in urban areas the public, except for slums would not give them much importance.
1. Thus these diploma holders would solve the problem of providing medical support to rural areas as well as for the BPL section.
2. The Rural Health Practitioners (the Diploma Holders) would not only have better knowledge of anatomy, physiology, general diseases and community medicine but also know their limits and as per need they would refer patients to senior doctors. Thus they would be the right solution to provide medical support systems in the interiors, rural/tribal areas.
3. Poor candidates who cannot offered to become full fledged doctors due to lack of money whose parent cannot shelf out 12-25 lacs of rupees can opt for this course and after becoming RHP serve their villages.
4. Quackery would be eradicated due to this course in coming years. And the use of fake qualifications like RMP, MBBS(Bio) BAMS (Bachelor of Alternative Medicine and Surgery), BEMS (Bachelor of Electro-Homeopathy & Surgery) would be arrested.
How to proceed to start this course
1. Environment Building
1. Under the Department of Medical Education and the Health Department & under the chairmanship of the Health Minister/ Principal Secretary Health /Health Commissioner a workshop should be held which could be attended by following experts.
a. Delegates from Health & Medical Education
b. Members of Indian Medical Association
c. Dean/HOD of Allopathic/ Ayurvedic/ Homeopathic Medical Colleges
d. Social Experts from Universities
e. Experts from NGOs working in rural areas.
2. The workshop should conclude with recommendation to the government supporting a solution to the problem.
3. To start the Diploma in Rural Medicine the State Government would have to pass an Ordinance/Act to constitute State Board of Rural Medical Education (State Gramin Chikitsha Mandal) under the State Medical Education Department.
4. This Uttar Pradesh Gramin Chikitsha Mandal should adopt the course of Diploma in Rural Medicine which is a three years course excluding an internship. This Mandal would design the course and also conduct the exams to award the diplomas.
5. This Mandal would design and regulate the norms/regulations and infrastructure standards for the private/government Rural Medical colleges. At a later stage Universities can conduct the examination and award of diploma/degree.
6. State Gramin Chikitsha Mandal would invite Expression of Interest from NGOs/Societies/Trusts and other such organizations who wish to start such colleges.
7. The Mandal would give permissions to the above organizations to open a predetermined number of Rural Medical Institutes, who can fulfill the perquisite norms within a given time frame.
8. The Mandal would conduct Pre-Rural Medical Exam for selection of student.
9. For practical and clinical knowledge the PHCs would be directed by the government to provide necessary support. The doctors there can be allowed to lecture in the colleges on honorarium.
10. To authorize the candidates who would have passed the Diploma in Rural Medicine to practice; the State Government would pass an ordinance to include their name in State Medical Register. Otherwise the State Government would have to constitute another RURAL MEDICAL REGISTER where in the RURAL HEALTH PRACTITIONERS would be registered and thus authorized to practice.
11. The Government would direct the State Cooperative Bank to forward education loans to candidates selected to do the course.
12. The Government would direct the State Cooperative Bank to forward loans to the candidates to open clinics in rural areas.
Notes:
1. Government of India Ministry of Health has already has recommended all the State Governments to start Three year Medical Course with 1 year internship.
2. National Rural Health Mission has offered job in rural areas in Chhattisgarh the 1300 pass-outs who completed their Internship to the students of the existing colleges in Chhattisgarh.
3. Government of Assam is also conducting similar course in Jorhat Medical College.
January 12th, 2010 at 2:29 PM
Kenya started training rural health workers in the early 1920s. Over the years the training has gone beyond the rural areas and currently they practice at all levels of the system. Refer to the article I researched for wikipedia below. I wrote a similar article for wikidoc.org. http://en.wikipedia.org/Clinical-officer
January 12th, 2010 at 2:32 PM
Kenya started training rural health workers in the early 1920s. Over the years the training has gone beyond the rural areas and currently they practice at all levels of the system. Refer to the article I researched for wikipedia below. I wrote a similar article for wikidoc.org. http://en.wikipedia.org/Clinical_officer
January 12th, 2010 at 2:35 PM
the correct link is http://en.wikipedia.org/Clinical_officer
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January 20th, 2010 at 4:47 PM
in order to provide better care to rural population, it is better to start a short term course for those with Bsc nursing, BAMS, BHMS,…. they will be more experienced in the field..they can replace a MBBS person studied for 6 years
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January 23rd, 2010 at 1:47 PM
IF THIS COURSE IS STARTED IN KERALA EVERY BODY WILL JOIN IN THIS COURSE AND NO BODY WILL JOIN IN MBBS(BECAUSE MBBS IS TIME WASTING AND MONEY WASTING).IT IS BETTER TO CUT SHORT THE DURATION OF MBBS COURSE TO 3AND HALF YEARS AND FOR DIPLOMA 1 YEAR AND FOR MD 2 YEARS
January 23rd, 2010 at 7:09 PM
BRMS……its totally absurd concept!!!
There is no need of starting this new course.Instead of this,govt. should increase vacancies for BUMS and BAMS doctors…
January 24th, 2010 at 5:26 PM
BRMS…….stop this.
BUMS and BAMS doctors are able to replace MBBS doctors…..
January 25th, 2010 at 9:53 PM
brms is abslutely incorrect manner of introducing rural student in medical field without qualify any medical intrance examination.
January 25th, 2010 at 9:58 PM
BRMS… this unjustice with BAMS and BUMS student who qualifying C.P.M.T. exams after preperation and losing their precious time.
January 25th, 2010 at 10:47 PM
Dr.N.V..Roy january, 25th
scersity of the rural doctors can solve with Allopathic trained AUSH doctors
January 26th, 2010 at 3:43 PM
SIR I HAVE A DOUBT WHAT IS THE ELIGIBILITY FOR ENTRY IN TO BRMS.I AM PYSIOTHERAPY GRADUATE I AM ELIGIBLE TO apply
January 27th, 2010 at 12:30 PM
sir ,i have complete my BPT COURSE. physio. would i m eligible to apply this BRMS COURSE.
January 27th, 2010 at 6:49 PM
sir there is no need to start new course,BAMS,BUMS BHMS are sufficient dr for posting in rural area
January 28th, 2010 at 9:47 PM
To,
The Health Minister,
Government of India
Sub : Regarding the proposal of MCI to start new course for rural health
Respected sir,
We came to know from news paper reports that MCI & Health Ministry are going to start new three& half years course (BRMS) for rural health.
Sir, we are BAMS & BHMS general practitioners in Maharashtra. Most of us are from rural background and practicing in rural area since last 10 to 20 years.
BAMS practitioners are allowed to practice modern medicine under Drugs & Cosmetics Act 1945 Sec 2ee, in Maharashtra.
Sir, we are competent to provide proper health-care in rural area. We are also ready to undergo any qualifying test or training, if Ministry thinks so.
According to us there is adequate number of general practitioners in rural Maharashtra, and there is no need to start three & half years BRMS course as far as Maharashtra is concerned.
With regards..
PRESIDENT,
NATIONAL INTEGRATED MEDICAL ASSOCIATION,
PATHARDI,DIST-AHMEDNAGAR 414 102
http://www.nimaptd.webs.com
January 28th, 2010 at 9:48 PM
To,
The Health Minister,
Government of India
Sub : Regarding the proposal of MCI to start new course for rural health
Respected sir,
We came to know from news paper reports that MCI & Health Ministry are going to start new three& half years course (BRMS) for rural health.
Sir, we are BAMS & BHMS general practitioners in Maharashtra. Most of us are from rural background and practicing in rural area since last 10 to 20 years.
BAMS practitioners are allowed to practice modern medicine under Drugs & Cosmetics Act 1945 Sec 2ee, in Maharashtra.
Sir, we are competent to provide proper health-care in rural area. We are also ready to undergo any qualifying test or training, if Ministry thinks so.
According to us there is adequate number of general practitioners in rural Maharashtra, and there is no need to start three & half years BRMS course as far as Maharashtra is concerned.
With regards..
PRESIDENT,
NATIONAL INTEGRATED MEDICAL ASSOCIATION,
PATHARDI,DIST-AHMEDNAGAR 414 102
January 28th, 2010 at 9:52 PM
NATIONAL INTEGRATED MEDICAL ASSOCIATION protests the health ministry & MCI for proposal of BRMS course for rural area.
wee are BAMS practitioners practicing in rural areas since last 20 to 30 yrs efficiently.
rural health system could not be improved without BAMS practitioners
http://wwnimaptd.webs.com
January 28th, 2010 at 9:56 PM
thereis no need for such course BAMS practitioners are capable of providing health care for rural area…
for details visit
http://www.nimaptd.webs.com
January 29th, 2010 at 7:41 PM
For the kind attention of Health Ministry & Higher authorities in Medical education,
It is true that rural people are deprieved of health services especially emergency health services.There is also increased use of Over the counter medicines.Early identification of health problems are many often missed in this population.In india many private nursing colleges are started especially in Tamilnadu after 1993 many nursing colleges offering BSc(N)& MSc(N)courses were started.These graduates are not inducted into state govt services.The policy makers and MCI can analyse the curriculum and syllabus of these courses and develop some strategies to train these workforce effectively utilise them in rural health care services.Why not a nurse with PG Qualificatin be allowed to serve and practice in rural settings.If we recognise their role in health care brain drain can be avoided and manpower in health care will be strengthened.
January 29th, 2010 at 9:43 PM
Nurse is the second option where BAMS practitioners are not available….
http://www.nimaptd.webs.com
January 29th, 2010 at 9:50 PM
BAMS practitioners are bright students from rural back ground who missed the admission to MBBS by fraction of points..
& whose parents could not afford the hefty fees of private medical institutions…
with no other option available they have done BAMS.
T
January 30th, 2010 at 9:39 AM
For the Kind Attention Of Health Ministry and MCI,
The meritorious students who are applying for MBBS,if they don’t get medicine they join for BSc Nursing under merit quota.The period of study is Four Years.After the graduation they do MSc Nursing after the work experience.The PG programmes are offered with the Specializations like Medical Surgical Nursing,Pediatric Nursing,Obstetrics and Gynaecological Nursing,Psychiatric Nursing and Community Health Nursing.When these professionals are allowed to practice as Independent Nurse Practitioners in developed countries why not we recognise the value of these workforce and utilise them in rural health care services.
January 30th, 2010 at 7:28 PM
To
Honble Minisret of Health & FamilyWelfare,
Govt of India.New Delhi
Sir,
It is very good that you have thought about the health of rural people of India pehaps the most neglected sector.Ihave my own fears and Solutions about the Impementation of this course. Firstly students with 10++2 with Physics,chemistry& biology may not be available in schools in villages having a population less than 10000.It will not be possible to teach the basics to these students in District Hospitals, Primary Health centers and Community Health Centers by Retired teachers of Medical colleges.
To come over this problom I suggest that instead of three and a half years this BRMS course may be made of Five and a half years Integrated course after 10th . I0th pass students will be easily available and willing to work in Villages because they are born and brought up in villages.The recognized Govt. & Private Dental colleges in Rural Areas can be very useful to train these new students after 10th AS they have already infra structure to teach subjects of Anatomy,Physiology,Boiochemistry, Pharmacology, Pathology and Microbiology and they have a well established 100 bedded General Hospital having Depatments of Clinical subjects Medecine ,Surgery,Ortho, obstratics & Gynaecology,Eye and ENT.10+1,10+2 lavel Physics ,Chemistry and Biology can be taught in the Dental college.
Secondly,the graduates of BDS,BAMS,BHMS,BSc.NURSING and BPT who hail from rural areas and under take to work in rural areas should be trained in practicals in clinical branches .They will be able to do much better than the new BRMS Doctors.
Thanking You,
Dr. Vikram Sharma.M.D.
G.N.D. Dental College College, Sunam (Pb)Mob. 09317941136
e-mail dr.vikram_sharma@yahoo.co.in
January 30th, 2010 at 7:35 PM
Medecine and Surgery theory and Practicals are taught to BDS students.Add to earliar comments Dr. Vikram Sharma.M.D.
G.N.D. Dental College Sunam (Pb)
February 1st, 2010 at 8:37 PM
THIS VIEW OF THE GOVERNMENT STARTING NEW MEDICAL COURSE WILL GIVE NEW CONTRAVERSIES.MAHARASHTRA IS HAVING ATLEAST 50 PERCENT OF BAMS/BHMS/DHMS PRACTIONER WHICH ARE HONESTLY GIVING GOOD RURAL SERVICE & COSTEFFECVE.IF GOVERNMENT WILL UPGRADE ALL THESE RURAL PRACTIONER THE PURPOSE WILL SOLVED IN SHORTER PERIOD & LEAST MONEY.
February 2nd, 2010 at 11:10 PM
Thanks to the Hon, Health Minister Mr. Gulam Nabi Azad, core issue of rural health-care came to debate.
I think he is the most able and efficient health minister. He has tackled the H1N1 pandemic in India very efficiently & effectively. While tackling the situation he has understood the ground realities of Indian Health Care System. He has promptly tackled the opportunistic elements in the medical field, who were viewing the situation as opportunity. Some were marketing masks & some were marketing ayurvedic capsules claiming research product& some big hospitals were giving fake H1N1 negative reports & treating him/her till he?she breaths last.
The minister countered this ” dukandari in medical” field promptly.
We have already sent our feelings regarding BRMS course. We are sure that he will take right decision in this regard without falling prey to any lobbying.
NATIONAL INTEGRATED MEDICAL ASSOCIATION
Pathardi Dist-Ahmednagar 414 102
February 3rd, 2010 at 10:51 AM
Honble Health Minister Mr. Gulam Nabi Azad,
Regarding BRMS issue, Students will be selected on the basis of marks obtained in Class XII with Physics, Chemistry and Biology as subjects. Only those who have studied in village schools with a poulation not more than 10000.All of us know that rural schools often do not have Medical stream.How the students will come from rural areas? It has been decided by MCI and GOVT. of India that these students will work in primary health centres for the first year so that they have first-hand experience. The second year will be spent in a district hospital and the third year in a tertiary hospital.It will be only see and then practice on poor patients as part of their training. There Perhaps will be no teaching of Medical subjects as these can not be taught in PHCs and Distt. hospitals as there are no Laboratries and class rooms with teaching adds and Medical teachers. If MCI and GOI feels that it is enough to treat a patient just after working and taking practical training at three lavels then why not give licence to Pharmacists who are working in these Primary Health Centers since last 10 to 15 years.There are thousends of Quakes working in rural areas and “serving” rural people since several years. Why the GOI and MCI not register them as Registered Medical Practitioner(RMP)? What will be the difference between these RMPs and BRMS Doctors when both are with out any theory knowedge of Medical Subjects and have only worked in above mentioned lavels of PHC, Distt. Hospitals and Tertiary Hospitals? Experinced ANMs and GNMs will be better than the BRMS lady doctors.The rural doctors are not SECOND CLASS CITEZENS that they can bw]e left to mercy of these LICENCED QUAKES.This is also against the sprit of natural justice and righr of equality. IT is most unfortunate that MCI has stated that “for five years after finishing training, these doctors will practice only in areas which have a population of less than 50,000. “For five years, they will not be eligible for post-graduate courses. After that, they will be at par with other doctors. Then they can go to the city and pursue PG studies” IT is just like making MUNSHI of an advocte not only a praticing Senior Advocate but judge of the Apex Court.Similarly these BRMS doctors will be eligible to become Professors in medical colleges then contesting for top posts in MCI.
Please lokk in all these points before taking final dession. Thanks. DR, Vikram Sharma
Addto Earliar Comments dated 30th Jan. 2010.
February 4th, 2010 at 8:48 AM
“THE RURAL PEOPLE ARE NOT SECOND CLASS CITIZENS THAT THEY CAN BE LEFT TO THE MERCY OF THESE LICENCED QUAKES (BRMS DOCTORS)” These lines be read like this in upper comments dated 3rd Feb 2010.
DR.VIKRAM SHARMA
February 4th, 2010 at 3:59 PM
To
Honble Minisret of Health & FamilyWelfare,
Govt of India.New Delhi
Respected sir,
We came to know from news paper reports that MCI & Health Ministry are going to start new three& half years course (BRMS) for rural health.
Sir, we are BAMS & BHMS general practitioners in gujarat. Most of us are from rural background and practicing in rural area since last 10 to 20 years. Sir, we are competent to provide proper health-care in rural area. We are also ready to undergo any qualifying test or training, if Ministry thinks so. if the gov. make a some new training corses for the ayush doctors and give them permission to practice selected medicines and drugs in hospital. then it is much better for the rural public. thanks and think.
February 7th, 2010 at 12:19 PM
BRHM- DANGEROUS TREATMENT FOR A AILING RURAL HEALTH
When discussing the health care professional shortage in rural areas one needs to highlight the skewed distribution of health care professionals in the country. While there are deficiencies in healthcare work force in some of the BIMARU and North East states, the southern states of Karnataka, Kerala, Tamilnadu, Pondicherry and the state of Maharashtra and Delhi has adequate and in some instances more than the required number of health care professionals as stipulated by World Health Organization. This regional disparity is further compounded by the fact that vast majority of the new private medical colleges and hospitals which have come up in recent times are in these same southern states. So on the one hand the deficiencies in some regions remain uncorrected, the other areas are facing an oversupply of doctors.
If the stated aim of BRHM course is to provide basic healthcare to rural population, a glance through the areas covered in the course reveal otherwise. Performing Hernia surgery, abdominal surgery and conducting obstetric procedures is already a very specialized job, which not even the MBBS graduates of 6 years training are expected to do. In this scenario it defies logic to see a 3.5 year trained person allowed to perform the same.
Instead of jumping on to some kneejerk solutions, the government should open their eyes and see how some states like Kerala and Tamilnadu achieved good rural health without having to bring out half baked doctors. It starts by first increasing the government spending to health care and improving the rural health infrastructure and incentives, so that doctors are attracted to work in rural areas, rather than forced to. If the ground situation doesn’t improve in the rural areas, who is to prevent these half baked doctors from moving to urban areas in the future.
The antecedents of the person given the responsibility of starting the new course don’t encourage much confidence either. Dr. Ketan Desai has a history of indulging in corruption at such huge scales for granting courses in Private Medical Colleges as the President of Indian Medical Council that Supreme Court remarked that ‘IMC is the most corrupt body in India’. During CBI raids house huge stacks of unaccounted money were recovered from his house. After having spend couple of years behind bars, he is now back to the original seat which he had abused for years.
To conclude merely increasing numbers is not the panacea to all the problems of our healthcare. The focus on quantity over quality will lead to much greater problems in the future, with the half baked, unqualified doctors creating more perils than what the society ever had hoped for. In a 2005 World Bank study, World Bank reported that “a detailed survey of the knowledge of medical practitioners for treating five common conditions in Delhi found that the average doctor in a public primary health center has around a 50-50 chance of recommending a harmful treatment”.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:57 AM
Instead of introducing BRHC Course, the Govt can plan some training programme for the BSc graduate nurses and place them in rural settings as Nurse Practitioners.
February 10th, 2010 at 3:17 PM
I Think as a policy option, it is good but implementation should not be failure. In my view nomenclature of this course should be also looked seriously.
My suggestion is that we should divide the medical education in three part like levels of care.
1- Primary Health Care
2. Secondary Health Care
3. Tertiary Health Care
Primary health health can be given by this new course- and we should give the degree for “Bachelor of Primary Health Care”
Secondary Level health care would be provided by at least MBBS doctor/ specialist doctor,
at least Tertiary Health Care would be provided by specialist / superspecialist. In conclusion rural urban discrimination should not be there.
Over all whole policy is based on selection of students, which must be from local rural area. If we could have been select students for MBBS course, from local rural areas. Quality of standard must be ensured, where the faculties are the biggest challenges in domain of health services and medical education both. Let us see and support the good development of the course design and implementation.
February 10th, 2010 at 10:18 PM
hi, if there is shortage of doctors and if the medicos are not willing for brms then why cant we try the nurse practitioners, who have really got some ideas on medicine and nursing care?
February 13th, 2010 at 9:34 PM
Sir i m physiotherapisg.this course very usefull for rular. physiotherapist know about anatomy, physiology, and community medicin.allowed physiotherapist only degree holder.
February 13th, 2010 at 9:41 PM
physiotherapist are allowed for brms.
February 14th, 2010 at 2:26 PM
I am physiotherapist,want to know about the PG courses and the eligibility criteria for the same.
February 15th, 2010 at 2:17 PM
I AM A STUDENT OF 3 YEAR MEDICAL COURSE NAMING PRACTIONER IN MODERN AND HOLISTIC MEDICINE. THIE COURSE IS INITIATED AND RECOGNISED BY GOVT OF C.G .I WILL APPRECIATE THE CONCEPT OF BRMS ONLY WHEN THE ALLIED MEDICINE WORD SHOULD BE EXCLUDED.AS ALLIED WORD IS USED FOR A PARAMEDICAL WORKER.INSTEAD OF TEACHING ALLIED MEDICINE ,STUDENT SHOULD TAUGHT RURAL CLINICAL MEDICINE AND APPLIED SURGERY.WHY GOVT WILLING TO MAKE US AND BRHC STUDENT A PARAMEDICAL PROFFESSIONALS. AS WE KNOW A PARAMEDICAL WORKER ALWAYS WORK UNDER SUPERVISION OF MEDICAL OFFICER,AS GOVT IS DECIDED TO GIVE THEM POSTING IN 1LAKH 45THOUSAHD SUBCENTRE,IT MEANS THEY NEED THIS MUCH NO OF MBBS DOCTOR TO SUPERVISE THE WORK OF BRHC HEALTH PROFFESSIONAL.ONE MORE THING I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT WHEN WE OR OTHER PEOPLE GOES TO HOSPITAL , WE SEEK DOCTOR FOR OUR TREATMENT NOT QUALIEFIED OTHER HEALTH PROFFESSIONAL,IT WILL ALSO NOT GIVE MENTAL SATISFACTION (OR PLACEBO)WHICH IS ALSO A PART OF TREATMENT.I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE REASON WHY WE HAVE LESSER NO OF OPD ATTENDANCE IN OUR SUB CENTRE.PATIENT GOES TO THOSE QUACK WHO PRETEND HIMSELF AS A DOCTOR .COMING BACK TO ADMINSTRATIVE POINT TO RUN PHC AS WE ARE DOING AS RMA (RURAL MEDICAL ASSISTANT) IN C.G .NO HEALTH WORKER INCORPORATE US OR NEITHER THEY FOLLOW OUR ORDER ,SAYING THAT THEY ARE NOT DR. THEN WHY SHOULD WE FOLLOW THEIR ORDER.ONE OF THE INCIDENCE IS FROM KORBA WHERE CHEIF MEDICAL AND HEALTH OFFICER RELEASED A NOTICE IN PRESS THAT RMA ARE NOT DOCTOR .IF WE ARE NOT ENTITLED TO PREFIX DR. THEN HOW AND WHY PATIENT COMES TO US FOR THEIR TREATMENT.MOST OF RMA ARE POSTED IN PHC WHERE NO MBBS MEDICAL OFFICER ARE POSTED,THEN WHO IS SUPERVISING THEIR WORK IN PHC.WHY THEY ARE ALLOWED TO TREAT PATIENT IN ABCENCE OF MEDICAL OFFICER.COMING BACK TO LEGAL ASPECT SUPREME COURTE HAS GIVEN A VERDICT IN CASE OF SUBHASIS BAKSHI THAT EVERY DIPLOMA HOLDER IN MEDICINE (RECOGNISED BY STATE GOVT )CAN BE ENROLLED IN STATE MEDICAL REGISTER AND CAN PRACTICE MEDICINE IN THE TERROTORY OF THEIR STATE.THE WORD PRACTICE INCLUDE ,PRESCRIPTION OF DRUG, GIVING SICK ,FITNESS,BIRTH AND DEATH CERTIFICATE INDEPENDTLY AS MENTIONED IN VERDICT OF SUPREME COURTE.COMING BACK TO 1916 INDIAN MEDICAL DEGREE ACT RECOGNISED MEDICAL QUALIFICATION MEANS A DEGEE/DIPLOMA/LICENCE GIVEN BY UNIVERSITY OR MEDICAL INSTITUTION WHICH IS DULY RECOGNISED BY UGC OR MCI.OUR 3 YR MADICAL COURSE IS RECOGNISED BY PT RAVI SHANKER/GURU GHASIDAS UNIVERSITY.THEN OUR STATE GOVT IS NOT GIVEN US PERMISSION TO PRACTISE INDEPENTLY.AS WE KNOW THAT IN MOST OF COURSE DIPLOMA HOLDER CAN GET LATERAL ADMISSION TO GRADUATION COURSE LIKE POLY IN BE, GNM IN TO BSC NURSING,D PHARMA INTO B PHARMA ETC.THEN WHY MCI IS NOT THINKING TO GIVE LATERAL ADMISSION TO DIPLOMA HOLDER/BRMS(brhc)IN TO FINAL YEAR OF MBBS,AFTER WORKING IN RURAL AREA FOR 3 YEAR,AS GOVT IS MAKING 25% RESERVATION FOR THOSE MBBS GRADUATE WHO WORK IN RURAL AREA FOR 3 YEAR. GOVT CAN ALSO MAKE RULES THAT AFTER COMPLETING LAT MBBS COURSE THIS RURAL DOCTOR AGAIN WORK IN THE RURAL AREA FOR MINIMUM 3YR DURATION THEN ONLY PERMANENT REGISTRATION CAN BE GIVEN TO THEM.THIS WILL LEAD TO A CONTINOUS SUPPLY OF DIPLOMA DR AND MAIN STEAM(MBBS) DOCTOR.
February 18th, 2010 at 1:59 PM
i want to know the eligibility criteria and other information regarding BRMS.
February 18th, 2010 at 7:45 PM
their selection procedure will be wrong .their mus
February 19th, 2010 at 12:39 PM
there should be selection of govt.nursing students because only they are 1st medical persion in absence of doctor & have good knowledge about community &community treatment
February 21st, 2010 at 4:18 PM
hi sir,i m a physiotherapist.i wanna know that there are some rumours that physio cant use dr. initial…….tell me abt that……..why??
we are also qualified and have the same knowledge that any medical student have….well all MBBS,BAMS,BUMS,BDS,EVEN RMP are also using the same initials…..that why we are suffering…….we also studied 4 and half yrs to get the degree.
and moreover,we can have the master of physiotherapy in various fields as the other MBBS,BAMS…..can apply for.
so tell me why they are not agreed that we are doctors………plz rply…..we also studied the same,we also treat the patient…..
The definition of doctor says that…”a person who is specialized in healing arts or a person holds an advance degree and have license to practice.”
we fulfilled all the requirements …..then why we are not getting justice.
THE definition of doctor for a layman is “one who treats the patient”.Here,we also did the same……….
then tell me what they have the problem that they are not agreeing with us.
February 22nd, 2010 at 1:33 PM
R u aware that in India v have 9.9 lack registered nurses, completed their diploma and degree and post graduate course??? instead forming a new brand of the health professional Y cant u give us (NURSES) to take up that responsibility???
I do not know whether u r aware or not, there are many basic health workers/common man doing drug prescription better than physicians. PLEASE DO NOT WASTE RESOURCES ON UNWANTED MATTERS. USE AVAILABLE RESOURCES
February 26th, 2010 at 4:02 PM
sir i m urban boy.can i appear this.there shud be chance 4 urban boy as well as rural boy
February 27th, 2010 at 10:57 AM
There is only four pathies are recognised by govt. of india,taht
is allopathy,ayurveda,junani & homeopathy,but some other pathies also existing in india,so govt. of india also do efforts to promote that unrecognised pathies, so that all people which have any their faith in any pathy they can take treatment from that pathy.so that every there is end the enemployment in country.& poeple can take their treatment with less expances against to expend the huge money.In some pathies the treatment is very cheep, so poor people cant treatment in cheapest.they can save their money & time.
With all the best.
So please give an opportunity to promote other pathies als.One side our constitution give rights to everyone for living, one side some rich persones make their loafs to stop promotion of other pathies, so that they can looted the peolpe.
February 28th, 2010 at 9:10 AM
Why Govt is appointing BRHM cours while there are a lot of unemployed BAMS doctors,Who have better knowledge.Why govt.is not giving them permission of Modern practice specially in West Bengal.
February 28th, 2010 at 12:20 PM
sir i m urban boy.can i appear this.there shud be chance 4 urban boy as well as rural boy
give me confirmed answer.n when it will start.when will we get application form
March 4th, 2010 at 8:11 PM
though this is definitely a plan with good intentions at heart,there are a lot of apprehensions about it.
1.from where will the govt. find so much capital to start off new institutions in rural areas?
2.isnt it unfair to make BRMS graduates at par with MBBS graduates even after 5 years of service?
at the same time i wonder how genuine are the arguments about creating a sub standard healthcare system for rural india…rural india already has a sub std. system cos of the shortage of doctors and the no. of quacks who are abundant in these areas…
may be introducing compulsory rural service after MBBS and PG as well as improving the living conditions in villages might help to some extent..
March 7th, 2010 at 12:42 AM
Sir,instead of giving new admissions better to think of ayur.,hoeopath &others which are eligible & all ready practicing in rural area.They will definately prove themself.Some of them could not do mbbs cause of money or no private college in that area.SO HUMBLE REQUEST-”give us a chance to grow up & prove us once again”
March 11th, 2010 at 9:02 PM
According to the latest Supreme court judgement, crosspathy is illegal and punishable,No Homeopath, Ayurvedic docs, etc can practice modern medicine.
If they do so they are nothing less than quacks. Government can post them for administrative positions in chcs and phcs, they are legally not allowed to prescribe or administer modern medicine drugs.
This BRMS course is an absurd concept. There cannot be 2 qualities of doctors.
It should be given some name as healthworker and not doctors.
If anybody can become a doctor in 3yrs and also eligible for postgraduation, nobody will like to waste 6 yrs in MBBS.
Quality is most important, it should not be diluted at any cost.
This political concept needs to be challenged in the court of Law.
March 13th, 2010 at 9:53 PM
Hello Jayanta Bhowmick,
of which judgement of supreme court you are talking about..?
BAMS is a course of integrated system of medicine, we have studied modern medicine & are legally authorized to prescribe the modern medicine.
read out the following page
http://nimaptd.webs.com/legaldiscussion.htm
don’t make vague statements.
National Integrated medical Association Association
March 14th, 2010 at 12:17 AM
An ayuvedic vaid (and not doctor) can only prescribe certain essential basic Modern medicine ( lay man term: Allopathy) drugs if a State allows so.
Go through These links of the judgements:
http://www.aiclindia.com/judgements_trend.asp
And It is a common sense and logic too How can a vaid presribe or administer a modern medicine drug whose pharmacology he has not studied and passed the exam? The same thing obviosly applies to the modern medicine practitioners they cannot prescribe ayurvedic drugs in whose pharmacology they are not qualified . Understanding this simple thing does not require the brains of Einstein I think.
March 14th, 2010 at 1:19 PM
Dear Raju,
there is a difference between BAMS Doctors & Ayurvedic vaids.
pls read out the article
True scenario Of Indian Medical Eduction exposed
http://nimaptd.webs.com/editorspick.htm
given the opportunity BAMS PRACTITIONERS CAN PROVE THEMSELVES & COULD BE SPECIALISTS & SUPER SPECIALISTS IN MAIN STREAM MEDICINE..
they are bright students & practitioners from rural back ground..
try to understand the reality & don’t make vague comments
NATIONAL INTEGRATED MEDICAL ASSOCIATION
March 17th, 2010 at 4:40 PM
there is no need to start new (BRHC) course because BHMS doctors are sufficientto give the health care in rural areas in india
March 17th, 2010 at 10:49 PM
I am interesting in opening a BRMS institute in village of Moradabad U.P. already running an ITI college for Rurl students NGO and Inter colleges in Villages. I need Guidelines and consultants
March 18th, 2010 at 10:43 AM
Even BAMS (so called doctors) are also not qualified and have not passed pharmacology of Modern medicine and thus not eligible to prescribe or administer them( other than some basic drugs) if a state desires so.They cannot superspecialise in modern medicine( layman: Allopathy) , although they can pursue postgraduation in their system of medicine.